M1 Carbine Production Dates * All dates and serial numbers are approximate * MFG Month Year Ending Serial # Inland - Inland Manufacturing Division of GM November 1941 5 WRA - Winchester Repeating Arms Co. December 1941 10 Inland - Inland Manufacturing Division of GM May 1942 999999 WRA - Winchester Repeating Arms Co. September 1942 1349999 No one, so far, at CMP has ID'ed it yet. Wood being wood, it is subject to cracks. The right side of the butt is marked with a crossed cannons cartouche and SG in a box which is a Saginaw SG mark (page 124). PRICE LOWERED BY $500 WAS 5999.99, WARNING! If a carbine appears to have all of the proper vintage, correctly coded parts and doesnt seem to have been refinished, the possibility exists that the weapon has been correctly restored. The smooth push button safety is marked IP-W which was used by Irwin-Pedersen and Saginaw SG (page 95). IP used some Rockola wood at their start up. Carbines having any other letter(s) on the receiver are beyond the scope of the information on this particular page. Until then it remains an unknown. A M1 with high wood is going to bring a high price. I'll give you $150.00 for it so you can double your return. standard for all type V M2 pot belly stocks by all manufacturers. I just picked up a sear marked "XI". Black Cherry darken with age and are almost impossible to distinguish from Walnut. Need Help Identifying Marks and value on My New SG M1. fire carbines like the M2's. It's an S'G' not an S.G. Many people have reconstructed many carbines with what they believe should have been on the carbine when it left the factory. It is a collectible M1 Carbine as the receiver was supplied to Inland by Saginaw Gear. We hope to raise awareness and understanding for the collector community, as well as encourage new collectors to join the hobby. We would like to encourage you to share information you may have that will help reconstruct what was actually done versus planned. GENERAL MOTORS 12-43. It is in great shape. annual growth rings, giving Birch a somewhat dull, uniform appearance. The bore is mint. The M1 Carbine contributed greatly to U.S. efforts during WWII. There is no bayonet lug. of a company that is committed to your satisfaction. Typically these punch marks are rather deep and readily apparent. The markings on the The crossed cannons escutcheon on the right side and other government markings should be present, albeit often faint from years of wear. That's a beauty! They are a specialty that -Saginaw (S.G.): Marked Right Side: "PO" "SG" -No other contractor made these -Type III (Post War) -Could be marked: "SA" "RIA" "P" "R" -Bolts -Type I (Flat Bolt) -Inland: Hi everyone, I acquired a Saginaw M1 carbine from a family member this morning. Parkerizing found on such parts is clear evidence that the weapon is not all original. Are you sure it is a Saginaw? The band will have 3 spot welds. I'm sure it's not all original. Used early in production. on a limited basis prior to the introduction of the M2 stocks but no documentation has been found to indicate this was done by the original manufacturer(s). Please don't Private Message me for Carbine questions. The practice of restoring the overhauled carbines by replacing later and/or non-original parts is a widespread practice among many collectors today. The resulting grooves could serve as a precision mounting for something, night-sight or other. Shortages were common The serial number would make it an early one too. These stamps were commercially manufactured for use on the Saginaw Carbines made in the Grand Rapids, Michigan factory are marked SG . 30 M1. and the top rear is marked SAGINAW SG / 3289121. It also has a S'G' stock and hand guard with an IP butt plate. Some were sequential but many were not. These receivers may not have had serial numbers when provided to Grand Rapids. ): B [circled] (I've seen some cases of 100 that were marked Winchester, but packed with these "B" magazines-- could they be a subcontract from Bridgeport?) On the outside this stock appears the same as the type III M1 stock but for the cutout for the M2 selector switch. Got 1 ! You may have been hiding under a rock if youve not yet heard of the new SIG Sauer MCX Spear. Most of the markings are deep. The barrel is marked "SAGINAW S.G. DIV. To get better and faster responses and opinions. By the way, the company that produced the receiver is deemed the prime contractor. rebuilt from spare parts. American Black Walnut was the most common wood used. Box, Paperwork & Accessories:The rifle has a canvas sling attached. IMMEDIATELY its how business should be done. Some fake stock markings have recently been applied by unscrupulous people. This resulted in an unknown number of "presentation" carbines possibly having the same serial number as the earlier Engineering carbines. majority of M1's converted to select fire were not altered, nor were markings added to indicate a conversion. I shaped sling cut, High Wood covers slide There is, however, spotty wear and thinning along the barrel and around the muzzle. the first M2 stocks. Should you have any questions regarding markings, members of our forum are the best source for answers. Questions should be posted in the appropriate forum. The absence of the letter P in either of these locations is fairly common. In 1942 the Ordinance District requested of General Motors Saginaw Steering Gear Division take over the M1 carbine production assigned to Irwin-Pedersen in Grand Rapids. There are 2 separate Saginaw Gear manufacturers. There is fouling and intermittent light erosion in the grooves. I purchased this one from a collector freind of mine who told me it was an S' G', but with the information provided here it appears to be incorrect. Irwin-Pederson (IP) secured a contract to produce M1 Carbines for the war effort in March of 1942. Black cherry was approved and saw very limited use. G.S. After WWII Birch became much more common. block in the same time frame. It simply means a P was not added at the prime contractor and the stock was not on a carbine when it was proof marked during an Ordnance rebuild operation. Anticipated shortages led to the use of yellow birch. Only Irwin-Pedersen & Saginaw SG receivers were produced with a tooling hole (page 22 of Craig Rieschs book, U.S. M1 Carbines Wartime Production 7th Edition). Manufacture date shows 9-43 with barrel date 9-43. Although additional woods were approved it does not appear any were manufactured using other than Walnut, Birch, or Cherry. Think of each serial number block as a separate contract. The serial numbers allocated to these carbines were as follows. Any opinions on how rare/popular collector is a Saginaw stamped M-1 Carbine? reconstruction of this history, we have a short survey on our forum (with instructions) I recently purchased an M1 carbine manufactured by Quality Hardware that has a bayonet lug. generous return policy, and handle everything you dont have to go back to As with all used firearms, a thorough cleaning may be necessary to meet your maintenance requirements. I recently picked up an M1 Carbine, manufactered by Inland MFG DIV/ General Motors. Caveat Emptor! 12/1/21 - This is a very nice example of a Saginaw M1 Carbine issued to the US military between May 1943 - January 1944. In 1942 the Ordinance District requested of General Motors Saginaw Steering Gear Division take over the M1 carbine production assigned to Irwin The receiver is marked Saginaw S'G', the barrel shows Underwood 8 43 with the bomb underneath. A circled P in san serif within a 1/2 inch diameter circle stamped in the bottom of the handgrip (above left) was sometimes used as a proof mark at several prime contractor facilities to indicate a completed carbine The hammer is marked SG which was used by Saginaw SG and Irwin-Pedersen (page 89). Ok to answer the second part of my own question, "RA-D" is actually RA-P and its a factory rebuild code for Raritan Arsenal, New Jersey. Serial numbered receivers transferred were not restricted to a certain block of serial numbers. Contracts had a completion date but there was no requirement for completing one contract before starting another. The stock shows several scrapes, scratches, and compression marks. It is in about Very Good Plus overall condition. The stock was also replaced and has no proof markings. The muzzle gauges 2.5. This Irwin-Pedersen M1 Carbine uses almost all original Irwin-Pedersen parts that were made prior to Saginaw SG taking over. However, if a carbine has all of the above parts (T4 barrel band, rotary safety, adjustable sight, parkerized bolt, etc.) be complicated. A few stock and/or carbine restoration However, the majority of carbines made in WWII had the non-adjustable L type rear sights. The same caveat basically holds true for the rotary safety. At least one document has been found that indicates Saginaw received Ordnance Refinished wood is normally quite easy to spot as are restruck, refreshed or enhanced stock markings. until Ordnance arranged for additional barrel manufacturers. serial numbers concurrent to receivers being made by the prime contractor and/or other subcontractors assigned lower or higher serial number blocks. XA through XD was assigned for use by their Engineering Section on carbines built for testing and evaluation by their engineers. This change was not implemented in conjunction with the longer barrel channel Guns.com is built to be simple easily organized products, useful descriptions from experts, and support to guide you to the right choice. This M1 Carbine is 1 part short of being considered all matching. There has to be either a period or apostrophe after each letter of the SG on the receiver heel. M2 selector switch, it was a type III stock manufactured by Winchester or Inland prior to Additional markings were sometimes added by end users at some point after the carbines were issued. A number of researchers and authors are present on the forums, helping others and seeking information for various research projects. requires each be assessed individually to determine its historical significance. The LOP measures 13 inches from the front of the trigger to the back of the buttplate. been observed but are uncommon. Probably the quickest way to determine if a carbine remains in its as issued World War II configuration is to examine a few key parts. This included a few of the previous Engineering carbines no longer needed. The bolt is marked SG on the right lug which was used by Saginaw SG and Irwin-Pedersen (page 36). While a competently restored carbine can sometimes be a bit difficult to spot, there are several tell-tale signs that often reveal restoration work. They are a little bit rare, and the price is usually way too high. barrel includes a date, it may provide a general idea of when the barrel was attached to the receiver. or may have other markings. Such markings can be sanded off by someone wishing to remove such evidence so any sanded areas make the stock suspect. It has a high wood stock and the serial number is in the 3.3 mils. There were 5 basic stock styles for the carbines M1 & M2, with minor variations by manufacturers that often changed over time. s/n's intermixed w/IBM s/n's (also see Table E & F). On the other hand, a detailed examination of a carbine is not always possible and the above parts can be looked at without even picking up the carbine from a gun show table. If inventory ran out it could shut down production. Each prime contractor was assigned a code letter: Therefore, for example, a carbine made by Rock Ola would be expected to have all R coded parts. http://www.chestnutridge.com/images/inv/CPBP2.asp. the machining of the wood below the recoil plate to provide better support. The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes. Saginaw Carbines made in the Grand Rapids, Michigan factory are marked SG . Underwood supplied barrels for Saginaw SG (page 50). Saginaw Carbines made at the Irwin-Pedersen Grand Rapids, Michigan factory are marked SG . The rifle comes with a green canvas sling. But for some reason, buying a gun online can barrel channel (top) Yellow Birch heartwood tends to be a light reddish brown, with nearly white sapwood. The letters were followed by Garand rifles, though some could be used to replicate or forge the markings on the U.S. Carbines. Overall Condition:This rifle retains about 87% of its metal finish. Dating a carbine by its serial number alone is difficult and not always accurate given the circumstances inherent with manufacturing and the logistics situation Inland later decided to present carbines as gifts to Inland employees, The left stock is stamped M-U where the sling is inserted, apparently meaning Marlin Firearms made the stock; walnut with a high wood, two rivet handguard. A number of researchers and authors are present on the forums, helping others and seeking information for various research projects. When the adjustable sights are removed and replaced by the correct vintage L type sight, these punch marks are often apparent and reveal the fact that a later sight was installed at one time. Because of it's size and weight the M1 carbine became fairly popular with many GI's. Stock is excellent condition with AA (82nd Airborne) cartouche, checkered butt plate. Saginaw M1 Carbine .30 Carbine Semi-Auto Rifle Blue Sky Import - C&R - 12500203. Rebuild marks are indicative of the carbine having been inspected by a stateside U.S. then allowed to dry. To provide the best experiences, we use technologies like cookies to store and/or access device information. contact us using the forum. Markings: The import mark under the barrel partially reads ARLINGTON VA. As a new member I must admit that my interest in the M1 carbine was relatively limited until I found a little beauty that my favorite gun dealer had originally wanted to keep for himself. Therefore, a carbine made by any of the other firms will not have barrels made by the same company that produced the receiver. We can be contacted at the following e-mail address. Most websites are poorly No documentation from Ordnance, or any of the prime contractors, has been found that indicates the date and serial number of carbines as they were assembled or when they passed authorization to sent an unknown quantity of receivers to Grand Rapids. That serial number was issued to Standard Products. Commercially manufactured modern day replicas of the dies/stamps used for markings are often used in "restoration". Spend your time enjoying the gun you want, not getting frustrated with a complex website that makes gun buying hard. The right side of the receiver shows some thinning from cycling. The key parts to observe are the rear sight, bolt, stock, safety and barrel band. Here is my $50 Saginaw S'G' - IP Carbine. Older Post Copyright 2011-2023 All Rights Reserved. of 0.3. The M2 Carbine had a selective fire capability i.e. full auto. Neither the M1 Rifle or the M1 Carbine had a selective fire capability. The M2 carbine replaced most of the submachine guns used the US by the time of the Korean War. The bolt is marked IP on the right lug which was used by Irwin-Pedersen and Saginaw SG (page 36). Because of this popularity, testing and use of the carbine for purposes well beyond it's original design became fairly common. My Saginaw serial 332xxxx also doesn't have any dots, just SAGINAW SG. The new serial number was hand stamped on top of the receiver behind the rear sight, in the vicinity of the prior serial number. 15 round magazines: Originally packed 100 to a case, with cardboard dividers and separate wrapping papers for each magazine--usually a brown or reddish heavy wax paper. The 15 round magazine is not available to residents of California or any other state with magazine capacity restrictions. The Discussion Forum also serves as a reference desk for the more advanced material that could easily overwhelm a website and is often subject to opinions that may vary for you to submit by CLICKING HERE. Grand Rapids, Michigan, Year of Manufacture:1942 to 1944. customers to the absolute best of our abilities. Rather than assume the documents were followed to the letter, the serial numbers in tables C-F are presented with the lowest and highest reported to date. Sling cut changed from the I cut to the Oval cut for expediency in production. It is this We get the FFL from your store others make you find it, copy it, and fax it. The receiver, bolt, and trigger group have been refinished. The Irwin-Pedersen contracts were terminated by Ordnance. The sling well is marked IR-IP which was used byIrwin-Pedersen and Saginaw SG(page 108 109). Which Saginaw? There is grease residue on the receiver. The underside of the handguard is marked RSG which was used by Saginaw SG and Saginaw Gear(page 138). The Discussion Forum also serves as a reference desk for the more advanced material that could easily overwhelm a website and is often subject to opinions that may vary The stock rates in about Very Good Plus overall condition. C+B I.I.P. I've got one with (JJ) in a circle , on the flipper, on a Winchester. When a later T4 barrel band is removed in order to install the proper WWII vintage narrow band, there are often rub marks on the barrel from the wider band. The receiver is stamped SAGINAW SG with no dots or other markings between the letters. If you choose to do so please More data submissions are needed to help determine any patterns. Read about the Saginaw (S.G.) carbines here: Serial number blocks assigned by the government. Refer to the page on Post World War II Activities for a list of the markings and further information. Rangemasters are here to answer all your questions about our products or process. A full parts list with their markings is included in the photographs. Stock Configuration & Condition:The two piece hardwood stock has a pistol grip, Type IA barrel band with sling loop, sling well, sling pass through, and metal buttplate. No matter what you hunt, or what type of gun you prefer to hunt with, Guns.com offers options for everyone. It is in about Very Good Plus to Fine condition. The Type IA barrel band is marked KV-SG which is a Saginaw SG mark (page 59). The rear sight is a Type I dual flip up aperture. The varnish is a little thin around the sling cutout. Occasionally, an L type sight might cover most of the circular punch marks so close examination should be performed to ascertain whether these exist. XA27, XA62, XD14). After WWII many stocks & handguards did not have a manufacturers mark. The barrel is marked "SAGINAW S.G. DIV. and/or carbine restoration businesses offer to include stamping the "correct" cartouche on the customer's carbine. Copyright 2011-2023 All Rights Reserved. It looks good and has a strong bright bore. It's the first I've seen. The stocks were also stamped with code markings which are normally found inside of the sling recess on the left side. marked: JM, Amco, MMQ,J.M.Q. Chambered in .30 cal, A very scarce WW2 Saginaw manufacture U.S. M1 Carbine .30 Caliber Semi-Auto rifle. Oval sling cut, High Wood covers slide Bore Condition:The muzzle and grooves are light gray. Skip to the beginning of the images gallery, 73 Plank Ave Paoli, It must not be inferred that if a carbine has a round bolt or an adjustable rear sight, it has been altered. to the assigned serial number blocks. The M1 Carbine: 10 Little-Known FactsThe M1 Carbine as a round is ballistically effective. Remember, the M1 Carbine was designed to replace the M1911A1 in the hands of support troops, machine gunners, etc., whoever If the Carbine was so bad, why did Audie Murphy use one? Americans most-decorated soldier of World War II, Lt. It was the chosen weapon of our enemy. More items The Grand Rapids facility stopped carbine production on 01 Jan 1944 but continued to make receivers and trigger housings which were sent to the Saginaw Plant for assembly. Sights / Optics:The front sight is a bladed post set between 2 protective wings. Serial While a crack can happen anywhere in the stock there are several places it was more prone to happen than anywhere else. Markings:There is no visible import mark. Barrel Date: March, 1943, Action Type:Semi Auto, Detachable Magazine. Legacy Collectibles strives to provide quality investment-grade military collectibles to an appreciative public. Some enterprising fakers have welded up very deep staking punch marks, ground off the excess and refinished the receiver. Most of the markings are deep. These rub marks are frequently apparent when the narrow band is installed, and is a sure sign that a later vintage barrel band was on the carbine at one time. On the other hand, as an old-time collector once said, Its not the fakes I spot that bother me, its the ones I dont. stock was thickened below the slide earning this stock the nickname of the "M2 Pot Belly stock". It makes a difference. Carbines have been, and still are, Box, Paperwork & Accessories:There is no magazine. American Black Walnut heartwood can range from a lighter pale brown to a dark chocolate brown with darker brown streaks. Features include a 18" 4 groove barrel with an excellent Saginaw 15 round magazine. This Inland M1 Carbine was made back in 1944. The only firms that made their own barrels were Inland, Winchester, Underwood, Rock Ola and IBM. If you own one of these carbines and would like to assist with the A few very late stocks used with the M2 carbine are characterized by a very prominent bulge on the bottom of the forend. 30 M1.; the top rear is marked SAGINAW S G / 3426991. The practice of restoring the overhauled carbines by replacing later and/or non-original parts is a widespread practice among many collectors today. My S' G' is serial number 1991044 and does not fit within any of the serial number ranges listed. The early Type I stock is a Saginaw SG stock made after SG took over the factory, but it was still made in the samefactory as the previous Type IIrwin-Pedersen stocks. Bolt is parkerized. Good luck. The desirable and hard to find original M1A1 folding stock paratrooper carbines are particularly prone to faking and the above books should be consulted before any purchase of such a carbine is consummated. We offer a 7 day inspection period and hassle free returns to ensure every customer is happy with whatever they buy from us. Overall, this rifle rates in about Very Good Plus condition as refinished. It has a receiver stamped SG on the left front side, both were divisions of General Motors though. At Guns.com, if an FFL is The most prominent marks are on the handguard. With World War 2 M1 sling. There is virtually no color distinction between If, after a detailed inspection, the M1 carbine appears to be as purported, and is priced reasonably, it is probably a good purchase. Examples being outdated parts and prototype parts that had accumulated throughout the various The magazine release is not an SG part. Documents found in the past have identified several prime contractors who assigned subsets of their serial numbers to their subcontractor(s). Thank you. Carbines with a Serial Number above 8 million. Curio & Relics and Black Powder Firearms, Old School shooting fun! Is any of this "original" or a product of a couple rebuilds? None of the carbines produced by Irwin-Pedersen (IP) were accepted by Ordnance. A few of the manufacturers used subcontractors to manufacture their receivers. Serial number blocks were assigned by the Ordnance Department on an as needed basis, generally in response to the awarding of a contract to a given manufacturer. U.S. I have a Saginaw SG 3.22 million range. There are 2 Saginaw Gear manufacturers of M1 Carbines. Serial numbered receivers that failed to pass inspection were set aside as rejects if the defect(s) could not be brought up to minimum standards. Where the standard rear sight would be there is a pedestal, the top of which has been milled. How much is a CMP Garand worth? A M1 GARAND rifle is currently worth an average price of $2,024.47 new and $1,615.82 used . How much is an M1 Garand in 2020? M1C Garand Sniper Model Doing so may alter departments within Inland over the years of production. Make: Saginaw SG. had passed inspection. The M1 Garand was a fantastic rifle. It was reliable, accurate, and powerful. And it was a semi-automatic service rifle in a time when almost every powerful nation was issuing bolt action rifles. If you want to find out more, heres a video that discusses why it was such a great rifle: JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. Ordnance facility post WWII and/or after the Korean War, sometimes involving a complete overhaul that stripped the carbine and rebuilt it from different parts. The SG denotes that it was made for the Inland Division of GM by the Saginaw Steering Gear Division of GM. This P was in a font other than sans serif, sometimes the letter P alone, within a square, or within a circle of various diameters other than 1/2". Not consenting or withdrawing consent, may adversely affect certain features and functions. Underwood name removed, Winchester name & s/n, Underwood name not lined out, Underwood s/n, Inland s/n'd receivers sent to National Postal Meter, Inland s/n'd receivers from SI subcontract sent to Underwood, Inland s/n'd receivers from SG subcontract sent to Underwood, Irwin Pedersen s/n'd receivers sent to Underwood, Underwood s/n'd receivers sent to National Postal Meter, IBM s/n'd receivers from AO subcontract sent to National Postal Meter, IBM duplicated some of s/n's they assigned to AO, Overrun into unassigned s/n block & Winchester s/n's, Machine error duplicating Winchester s/n's. own to figure out what you want. Any opinions on how rare/popular collector is a Saginaw stamped M-1 Carbine? Barrel Date: March, 1943 Caliber: .30 Carbine Action Type: Semi Auto, Detachable Magazine Markings: If a Saginaw S'G' strip it down to see if it has any IP Irwin Peterson parts, could be a transitional carbine. This is due to the fact that, except for extremely late production Winchester and Inland examples, WWII carbines will have several features in common. I have some other shooters so this one has been a safe queen. The receiver is marked SG under the wood and uses a wide locking tang. The technical storage or access is necessary for the legitimate purpose of storing preferences that are not requested by the subscriber or user. Common sense will dictate that a well used stock would not have pristine stock markings. It is in about Good condition. During WWII the only stocks made with Birch were made by Sprague & Carleton Co. of Keene, NH for IBM (SC-B). 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